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SAP2: Making Combat Suck Less

Super Adventure Pals 2 is an upcoming platformer adventure game made by two people; Jay Armstrong of Massive Monster and Julian Wilton of Corupted Games. The game was recently Greenlit and is going to be published by Armor Games.

The Story.

Julian and I usually work remotely with me based in the UK and while he works at his home near Sydney, Australia, but in the last few weeks we’ve been lucky enough to spend a lot of time together in order to aid our Greenlight campaign as well as (and more importantly) to take what was a bloated flash game and turn it into a tight, exciting and super fun Indie game built from the ground up for your desktop.

To do this, we are using new tech and workflows – including a really great Haxe library called OpenFl and for the first time using GitHub rather than sharing files over dropbox. This allows us to have high res graphics running full screen at 60fps – a huge improvement from an 800×600 flash window running at 30fps!

We’ve recognised this as an important opportunity to get the game ‘right’ this time. Not many people will know this, but this will be the third attempt to create Super Adventure Pals 2 (If you are interested I wrote an article about it in February 2014 here). With the pressure of a greenlight campaign and Armor Games backing us we are fully aware that this game needs to be special. So the two of us have spent a lot of time over the last two weeks simply sitting down with pieces of paper and pens and having extensive and exhaustive talks about what we think worked in the original game, what we think didn’t work so well and how we can get it spot on this time around.

How to make combat not suck so much.

What of the things we realised was always a bit “meh” is the combat in Super Adventure Pals. It has so far only consisted of dumb enemies mindlessly running at you, usually falling off cliffs and then button mashing them into submission. While we like button-mashing, you could also just as easily run past any and all enemies. Enemies weren’t dangerous, they weren’t threatening, they weren’t even irritations – they could just be completely ignored! This also meant that upgrading your weapon wasn’t particularly important.

1) Avoid clumping, mindless enemies.

To combat these issues we’ve made a number of changes. Enemies now patrol until they see you, then they rush to attack you but importantly, they can recognise when you are being attacked on the side they are coming from and will wait their turn. Unless of course you are being attacked from the other side, then they will sneak in and try and flank you. This makes for a remarkably seemingly ‘smart’ enemies. Don’t get me wrong, this is still straight up button-mashing goodness, but it’s nice to see other enemies standing by and watching on until you dispatch one of his colleagues at which point they’ll jump in to the fray.

2) Make the whole world revolve around the player and his actions

I’ve also made the camera more dynamic, when you are engaging with an enemy there is the slightest zoom in, and the camera centers itself between all the combatants. This works well as there is no mouse or camera-position related controls. It just makes the game feel more alive and responsive.

3) Give things weight and substance

You also can no longer run past enemies, instead they are solid masses which you must either jump over or defeat in combat to get past. I toyed with the idea of them damaging you if you touched them but abandoned this for two reasons. Firstly, it was inconsistent with the enemies attack animations – why would they attack if just touching them killed you? It just felt ‘off’. And secondly, it made it very hard to pull off combos as whenever you got too close you’d pingback and be damaged. No, this approach wasn’t going to work. Instead I created a system where upon touching an enemy you moved back ever so slightly and were unable to move your character forward again for a 1/6th of a second. This meant they felt ‘solid’, even without the use of a built in physics engine, enemies were suddenly sturdy objects and could also act as obstacles in a level.

4) Shake, shake, shake!

Take a note from the good folks at Vlambeer we added a subtle amount of screen shake on landing a hit and then a big amount when killing an enemy. We also flash the screen red when you get hit and white when you defeat an enemy. There is also a few frame’s pause on these events as well and plenty of particles on a hit to create that feeling of power. These all combine to create a subtle feeling of impact during combat. Thanks Vlambeer!

5) Don’t be what you are not

We toyed between a Demon Souls ‘hard-to-land-a-hit-but-when-you-do-its-super-satisfying’ feel for combat and the traditional button-mashing. Needless to say we opted for button-mashing! We removed almost all delay between attacks, you can almost attack as quickly as you can press the attack key, which feels great. We also have attacks that throw enemies and yourself in to the air and others that slam them down again. Smaller hits also knock enemies back a bit and pop them in the air slightly. Again, more subtle techniques to make you feel powerful and have each hit feel like it has impact.

6) Know what you aiming for and focus on being the best you can at that

At the moment we are discussing whether we should have damage numbers and life bars during combat. I think we will probably avoid these for a number of reasons. Firstly, you end up watching the life bars and not the character animations, and the same goes for the damage numbers. It may also make it feel too ‘gamey’. Super Adventure Pals always aims to be slightly self-aware, but with mechanical things like this, its important to get the feeling of immersion right. And finally, if attack damage is consistent the screen will become flooded with the same numbers over and over again, however if there is an element of randomness added to the attack damage that may also feel unfair and be tricky to scale when it comes to levelling up your weapons.

Thanks for reading!

So, there you have it, our rethinking of combat in Super Adventure Pals. I’m pleased to report that engaging with enemies is now actually ‘fun’, and no longer a neglected part of the experience.

Thanks for reading, any questions about this or any other element of Super Adventure Pals 2’s development please just ask! Keep checking back for more news from us – a post a week, that’s what we promise!

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Game: SuperAdventurePals.com | Code: MassiveMonster.co.uk | Art: CoruptedGames.com


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Super Adventure Pals 2 Massive Monster Jay Armstrong Games Greenlight

Vote Super Adventure Pals on Greenlight!!

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Super Adventure Pals 2

What’s that? Yes Super Adventure Pals 2. Its on Greenlight, we are going for Steam. Please vote for it.

We’ve had a heck of a journey getting to this point. So much has changed since we first decided we would make this game. But now with the partnership of the always amazing Armor Games, if we get Greenlit we will be moving the game over to OpenFl and we’ll be able to create an incredible adventure, that likes of which have not been seen!

So please click below to go to the Greenlight page and vote for the game. If you have any questions at all or are interested about what we’ll be seeing in the game just ask! :)

Super Adventure Pals 2 Greenlight

Here is the awesome trailer for the game. Made by the extremely talented Marlon Wiebe who has made some incredible videos for Crypt of the Necrodancer, Nuclear Throne and many others. Check out his stuff here. He did a fantastic job with the ‘pals – what do you think.

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Amazing Bearbarians video!

Thanks IHeartPie Gaming for this EPIC Bearbarians video! 😀

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Artist spotlight: Isaac Giles

Hi everyone! I just had to share with you this amazing fan art of Super Adventure Pals and Kit & The Octopod. This fantastic work was done by Isaac Giles, an awesome artist from New Zealand! To see more of his stuff follow him on Twitter here and subscribe to his YouTube channel here.

Thanks again Giles, I can’t tell you how much it means to me and Julian to see other people’s interpretations of our creations – you are the best!


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If you would like to have any of your artwork featured, just let me know! Contact me via twitter @JayMaxArmstrong or simply email me through the form on the contact page – I always email you right back.

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Some words of advice

I recently did a talk at the Kumon award ceremony this year. Kumon is an amazing tutoring company which I also did as a kid. They asked me to talk about how maths can be used to make games. The response to my talk was amazing and I hope that people went away seeing the fun things you can achieve with things like trigonometry! (Yes, they do exist!)

Here I am suited and booted and delivering one of the three talks I gave that day:

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I also met a number of really cool award winners who were interested in making games. Congratulations to all of them, and if anyone is reading, please feel free to contact me at any time. Having done some of the course, I know how much commitment it must have taken to reach completion!

Kumon awards ceremony - Jay Armstrong Games

Here I am with a fellow ‘Southampton-ite’ who received his maths award – congratulations mate!

On a related not – I also often get emailed questions from people curious as to how I learned to make games, what software I use and how I got started. I recently had a lovely email from someone keen to learn about the feasibility about making games full time. I wrote a reply to her, and then thought that this information might be interesting to others in a similar position, so here it is! I’ve no doubt there are people out there who would give far better advice, but all I can talk about is my experience, I hope it might be useful, but everyone’s experience is going to be different.

What was the process of learning AS3 for you? Have you got any advice as to how to get started?

The process of learning AS3 was a bit of a long and convoluted process. I actually learned AS2 first. I did this by scouring forums in my free time or staying up late in the evenings and experimenting right through until 1 or 2 in the morning when I had work the next day! However, I’d recommend getting a book. Forums and trial and error are OK, and thats how I learned, but I also found that whenever I splashed out on a proper, physical book I could hold in my hands I would not only be able to progress more easily, but actually understand what I was doing. Copy and pasting code, while tempting at first, actually sets you back in the long term. If for example, you understand the difference between a static or instance variable that will allow you to get on so much more easily.

What advice would you give to yourself if you could meet yourself when you were starting out?

I don’t think there is a huge amount I would tell myself when I was starting. I was driven by the excitement of my ideas – usually based on how I could create a cool ‘system’ and had the attitude of taking a chance on any collaboration that came along. If it doesn’t work out, or they don’t pull their weight, don’t work with them again. Thats why I now only work with a small, very talented team – which is awesome! But you do need to go through that learning process. You do need to make mistakes and try and learn from them. Usually the bit of advice I give to someone starting is ‘just make a game’. Don’t prepare too much, don’t over think it, just do it. Start by getting your character walking around, then throw in a few enemies, and just grow and learn from there. I guess what I am trying to say, is that there is no substitute from experience and there is zero reason not to just get on with it. I meet a lot of students at the moment who want to make a game development ‘business’, whereas I just wanted to make a game. The rest came later.

In terms of having games out there, I do think I could have been better at creating a ‘franchise’ or a series of games and cultivating a followership around that. I attempted this a bit with it with Combat Hero Adventures, but the problem with me is that the thing that got me out of bed every morning was the new idea. Working by yourself means you need a lot of self-motivation, and I found that unless it was a new exciting idea I’d struggle to get things done. I also wanted to make games so that I could explore lots of my ideas, not just churn out sequels. However, I do now feel that there are some games that I’d love to revisit and expand that world with a sequel, I’m currently working on Super Adventure Pals 2, and I’d love to create another Bearbarians.

How feasible is it to work full-time and design games on the side? Do you make any money designing Flash games?

I have been working on games full time for around 4 years. However, 3 / 4 years ago the flash game market place was fantastic. However, I do not believe that these prices exist any more. I don’t think its feasible or wise to go full time for flash games any more (as it was 3 or 4 years ago when I started) without having other areas to what you do. I wouldn’t quit working until you are already making a living from it – thats what I did. Last year got a little scary, and I have had to evolve what I do. I balance the odd bit of commission work, freelancing while I build for Steam and console. 

Where is a good place to get started?

A good place to get a grip of things is FGL.com (flash game license.com) – thats where I sold my first game, and was how I ‘met’ all the sponsors I have been doing business with. I’d highly recommend getting on there and checking it out. A word of warning though, I have only sold one game on there and I believe I got a bad price for it, since then I have always sold through direct email. 

Concluding remarks

I don’t know whether I have give you hope or scared you off, but I have had a wonderful few years making games full time. I’ve had to adapt due to changes, but you have to do that in any changing business, particularly one so reliant on technology. If I had to sum everything up I’d say: “Just do it, the rest will follow”. 

But then again – would you really trust me for advice?

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Don’t take this guy’s advice.


The Last Dinosaurs: Post Mortem



The Last Dinosaurs is out, check it out on Kongregate here!

The Last Dinosaurs is an arena shooter game that Jimp and I put together over the summer. Its been released on Kongregate but we have had trouble finding any more sponsorship for the game. It has been an interesting experience as it is a game we both really like but failed to excite sponsors. I think it definitely ties in with the dramatic collapse of the flash market, but looking at the game as well its easy to learn a few lessons about what we go wrong or could have done better.

I was so proud of Epic Time Pirates (play here) and had worked really hard to put together an awesome shooting game that I was keen to do more with the code base. I love working with Jimp and he had a bit of free time over the summer so I invited him down and we spent some time working on The Last Dinosaurs. This wasn’t the first time I’d work in the same room as a collaborator it was still a pretty new thing for me. I think we were able to do a lot more then we normally would have done we were able to cut down the last few weeks in to a few days simply by being next to each other.

Concept and narrative

The first thing we decided upon, and one of my favourite things about the game was the concept; a team of crime fighting dinosaurs in the sewers. It was kind of reminiscent of Ninja Turtles and as a kid I was a massive fan of the turtles!I think we had a pretty good narrative, and we really felt that the big twist in which your mentor is killed was a pretty powerful moment. However, looking back it probably would have been better to flesh out the enemy characters like the Cat King, a little more. Without doing so it all feels a little anonymous. I think characters and personal stories are much more engaging then just general good vs bad set ups. Having said that we were really excited about having a base you returned to every few levels where you could talk to your team mates, an idea lifted entirely from Mass Effect. That game really succeeds in making you care about your crew members, and in a small way I think we wanted to capture a little bit of that spirit. Its hard to tell whether people have enjoyed that aspect or saw it as more of a chore. There is no benefit gained from talking to crew members, but we had hoped it would add to the immersion, if you’ve played the game what do you think? Did it help draw you in or was it a pain?



Weapon system

One of the biggest criticisms I’ve seen is that buying new weapons should only be accessible to the player. I find this quite odd as traditionally in games like Unreal, you would unlock weapons and everyone in the arena would be able to grab them. This was the normal way of doing things. However, I think that with newer FPS games (like COD)  its much more usual to pick a gun at the beginning of the game and stick with it, perhaps changing your ‘load out’ when you respawn. I did it this way in Bearbarians and I definitely saw that people preferred this system. Its my fault for not realising this,  I was just to used to the ‘old fashioned’ way of spawning weapons in arena games. It makes me realise that you shouldn’t rely on old gaming tropes, you should take time to think about what would work best in your game and create a new more appropriate system based on what you decide. For example, it probably would have been better to have had classes with each team member having a different weapon and therefore a different role in the game. You could then customise their load out before each match. This would have also allowed us to stagger weapons as the game continued, rather then relying on players to buy them from the shop. However this would have taken significantly more time and we were on a pretty tight schedule. Another good system would have been allowing the player to possess all guns they have already unlocked and used a weapon wheel (like in our game Zombinsanity) to access their guns. This would have also allowed us to restrict the enemies guns and give them better weapons as the game progressed.





I spent quite a long time trying to make the game ‘juicier’. I took out mouse aiming to make the game more accessible and I added things like screen shakes, slow motions and characters being blown away when killed. Its amazing to play the original version and then compare it to the final one. A lot went in to making it feel responsive and make you feel powerful, a lot of things you don’t notice but when its missing you can ‘feel’. For example, after every kill there is a few milliseconds in which the game is paused. This is to give your brain time to see and register that something has happened but its not long enough for you to be really conscious of it. Its a really subtle trick but makes a huge amount of difference. Its all stuff taken from a great talk by Jan of Vlambeer; the undisputed Indie kings of ‘juice’, which you can watch it here:

Endless Mode

When you complete the game you enter ‘endless mode’, in which areas across the city are constantly under attack and you need to continually fight to keep the streets safe. Technically I was pretty pleased with this, we were able to generate endless missions against different teams across different locations and it didn’t take particularly long to do. I’ve been really interested in the idea of randomly generated missions for a while now, and while this wasn’t much more then ‘choose a location from a list’ and then ‘choose an enemy team from a list’, randomise a few more things and voila; mission available! – it still felt like a nice way to keep the game going. I think I’ll take this idea and expand on it in the future, but its hard to say whether it helped the game in this case. It would have been perhaps nice to have been able to complete the endless section, or at least have some kind of goal. I don’t think people have a high tolerance for goal-less-ness and perhaps it was a bit of a cheap trick to keep people engaged, but I liked it, and it was meant as a genuine extension of the game.




Kongregate has a meta-game reward system for its members, it sets them tasks to do each day and if they achieve them they are rewarded with a ‘kongpanion’, an animal which they collect and sometimes are have other applications. Whats really cool about them is that Jimp is the artist for them – and this is a game about animals. We thought it was a perfect match, and one of the agreements we made with Kongregate was that we would integrate them in to our game. One fo the interesting challenges about this is that you need access to the players Kongregate account to see what kongpanions they have, and you also need to be prepared that there will be new Kongpanions every week! This means you can’t hard code them in to your game, you need to bring in the graphics from outside the game and load them in dynamically. You also need to have buffs from them and these need to be consistent across all games and be generated for future kongpanions that don’t currently exist but will do in the future! One option would be constantly update the game – but who can deal with that noise? It would also be a life long commitment and be totally unsustainable! So heres what I did; I dynamically loaded in the players kongpnaions from his kongregate account, then using the name of the kongpanion I used random seeding to create a particular buff for them and the power of that buff. This way, every player would receive the same buff from the same kongpanion! Random seeding is a pretty awesome thing and really useful for a crazy amount of different situations. Escape to Hell (play here), a game I made with Rob Donkin uses a lot of random seeding as it meant that missions and dungeons could be generated endlessly, but that you could also save and replay those dungeons and come back to them later – so long as you kept a record of the seed.

We received some criticism that the kongpanions felt ‘tacked on at the end’, which is fair because… well, they were tacked on at the end. I felt surprised that people were surprised by this. They are a site exclusive feature that add buffs to your character as a reward for playing on Kongregate. Perhaps we should have mentioned them at least once in the story to provide some explanation, but that wouldn’t have made much sense as you couldn’t use them on other sites and this would have pissed off a lot of players.

Guinea Pig Sanctuary

Did anyone find the Guinea Pig sanctuary? This was one of the highlights of the game and we thought it might bring some real laughs, but no one seems to have mentioned it. When you enter the sewer base, jump up rather then dropping down and you’ll find it. Jimp and I had a huge amount of fun coming up with it and I hope people have had some sadistic rodent blasting fun with it!


When thinking about game design there are quite a few things I’ve learned through making this game.

  • Being in the same room is just insanely more productive then working with someone remotely.
  • Add lots of juice to your game
  • Think about all aspects of the game, particularly with things you assume should be there as your assumptions might be wrong. Take time to think about how something could be redesigned to fit more effectively with the particular needs of your game – you might even end up innovating!
  • Explain all features of a game to avoid being accused of ‘tacking things on’. The more coherently all the pieces fit together the more streamlined it will feel, ultimately leading to a better experience



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Lunar Lemurs - Jay Armstrong Games

Lunar Lemurs is out now!

Lunar Lemurs - Jay Armstrong Games

Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls I am proud to announce the release of ‘Lunar Lemurs’! A new super cute game designed by me and my girlfriend (now fiancé!) Fiona. Help Mada and Saha rejoin their family as they travel across a moonlit jungle in search of the land of the Tsingy.

The game was inspired by our trip to Madagascar a couple of years ago. Lemurs are endemic to the country and are really quite amazing creatures. We saw a number of them and Fiona had been working on a children’s book starring them. For one reason another she had less and less time to work on her idea until I suggested we work on a game together. It was fun coming up with ideas and it was certainly her influence that led to a ‘cuter’ vibe for the game then I usually have.

This game is a lot like Fire boy and water girl, in that you control both characters at the same time – so for best results play with a friend! It definitely makes it a lot more fun, and creates plenty of chances to mess with your partner!

For those interested in the technical side of it, it uses the platforming engine I am using for Super Adventure Pals 2 and the particle system I created for Epic Time Pirates.

The particles work by drawing a series of vector animations in to bitmaps and then pushing them to an array. There is one ‘canvas’ for all the particles, it updates each frame and draws the appropriate bitmap image in the appropriate position, which allows for loads of effects at pretty fast speeds (for flash at least!).

Any questions please do drop me a comment. I’d love to know how people feel about the game.

Play it here.


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Escape to Hell is out on Armor Games now!

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Escape to Hell has launched on Armor Games.com now! Please go play it and vote the game up. I really like this little game and have had a huge amount of fun drawing, designing and playing it and I do hope you enjoy it. Please go check it out and let me know what you think!

Click here to play!!


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Escape To Hell Gameplay Trailer


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Escape To Hell – new game coming soon!


I have been working on a really fun game with Rob Donking of Bad Viking Games . He’s made a tonne of games, all of which are awesome and this is no exception! This game is a sort of dungeon runner with a bit of a twist. If you combined Binding of Isaac with Hotline Miami and then set the game in hell, you’d have this! I’ve really enjoyed working with Rob, not just because he is a sound guy, lives round the corner from me, is an extremely competent programmer but also because I’ve been able to steer clear of all programming and simply do the art work. I haven’t written a line of code and it feels great! The game is now finished and we are looking for sponsorship. I’ll be making a game play trailer so check back in a couple days and I’ll have it posted up. Until then here are some screenshots:

Jay Armstrong Games Escape to hell

Here are some outdated game play screen shots (please note the game looks way better now!):

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And here is a scene from the intro movie. You have been thrown out of your home by an unspeakable evil and must battle your way back through the under world to have your revenge!

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